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hello and welcome to the show on Martin

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Willis your host and we have another

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pre-recorded show for you this week

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actually we have two so I'm gonna

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explain that I did two one-hour

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face-to-face interviews at the UFO

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Congress and I was gonna run them as one

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two-hour show and then I said what the

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heck on YouTube the same person that may

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want to watch one may not want to watch

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the other so we split him in two

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and so this guest on this show is Bill

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burns you may know him from the UFO

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Hunters great guy highly intelligent

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funny and all that and he's going to be

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talking about Edison vs. Tesla and try I

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try to engage with them as as best I

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know about Tesla it's a great show I

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hope you sit back and enjoy it and

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thanks so much sit back and enjoy the

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show bill birnes welcome to the show oh

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thank you thank you Morty and you know

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you were the episode two and I I have a

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lot of affinity for anyone that took a

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chance to be on my show near the

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beginning because I was a nobody I still

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am but I mean I was more of a nobody

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just someone asking you want and you

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came on and that here's the deal anybody

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who wants to talk about UFOs or

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alternative history or anomalous

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theories or things that nobody else

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wants to talk about I'm all in favor of

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that because quite frankly you turn the

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news on on television and all you get is

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this bladder of this is the party line

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whether it's red blue red green whatever

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it's the party line and we're going to

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pump this information into you and

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somebody who has the courage in the

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backbone to go on the air and say look I

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don't care what you think I'm going to

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talk to people whose view

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aren't in the public domain whose views

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aren't out there and they may have crazy

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views and nobody says you have to agree

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with them but you know what it's there

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you want to listen to it here it is so I

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said hey Morty if that's what you're

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gonna do then I'm with you yeah that's

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awesome awesome so today I'd like to

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talk about I know you wrote about Tesla

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vs. Edison or something along those

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lines what was the title of that book

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was Edison vs. Tesla the battle over

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their last invention and it's funny that

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you bring that up because that's exactly

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what we're talking about when it comes

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to history that nobody deals with

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because it's been buried what they were

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battling over those two geniuses and

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here's the funny part about it

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both inventors both engineers both but

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both electronics engineers brilliant men

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both of them were bitter bitter rivals

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they hated each other and I can tell you

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why but they hated each other they both

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were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics

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to share the Nobel Prize they hated each

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other so much neither one of them wanted

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the Nobel Prize because they didn't want

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the other guy to share it oh my god yeah

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yeah no I I did I have followed a little

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bit of that Tesla really is really

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fascinating to me I know Edison again as

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Tesla more so because you know I never

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lifetime until I would say the last 15

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maybe 20 years there's a reason for that

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history has a way of burying what's

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inconvenient and pumping up what's

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convenient I mean for example I'll just

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give you a quick example I not to sound

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too academic when I say to you King

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Richard the third what do you think

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about what a match raising right yeah

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Richard this third was a wonderful King

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okay yes he may have had a hunchback

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his body and he did have a hunchback but

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but still yet yes he was Machiavellian

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not that bad a king I mean he was not an

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evil tyrant he was not he was not as he

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he was not he was not that person I mean

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Monmouth by by Henry Tudor but still the

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fact is history the Hollinshead

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the Hollinshead Chronicles portrayed him

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Hollenshead Chronicles that's how

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Shakespeare based his history plays the

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for Queen Elizabeth to have done the

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been to denigrate her own line to the

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queen not Queen Elizabeth so the point

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that I'm trying to make is history

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determines what floats to the surface

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what children are gonna read in their

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century even though it's Tesla we are

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sitting in a room with electric lights

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yeah because of Nikola Tesla alternating

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current yes yeah which he scratched out

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on in sand and a mistake or something

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like that I remember reading something

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about that Tesla realized that and this

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is this is standard when you if you're

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walking on level ground it takes one

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level of energy if you're walking uphill

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electricity it's called potential its

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power if you did that that would push

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theory Tesla had a kind of an ideogram

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Emery he was able to conceive of

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something in his mind and then translate

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paper onto sand onto anything that's how

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to the master Thomas Edison he'll see

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the beauty of this and immediately he

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alternate history let's say Tesla was

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stations every mile I mean once you have

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the part of the issue in in in the book

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the whole point of alternative history

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how Edison at a certain point in his

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life became corporatized he was not the

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machine the young Tom Edison you know

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colliding with another this is a very

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different Thomas Edison he was a Thomas

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Edison who was friends with Harvey

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Firestone a friends with Henry Ford this

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vested in his own inventions right so

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that would ever possibly it never would

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have changed wouldn't that be horrible I

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mean it was just so cost ineffective I

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a society that is exactly what we would

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have rocked and that's how we would be

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exactly who knows what else wouldn't

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have come along if it wasn't for Tesla

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of patents what was it that it's true

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and and and Tesla's patents some of them

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were so wild for example

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great alternative history as Tesla let

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me just grab one thing sure so we're on

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with bill burns and we just he had just

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had to get a sip of water that I had

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against a board so here's the deal so

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Tesla after he financially broke up

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because he he was working for Edison

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right he was watering it out yes yeah so

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after they broke up

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radio-controlled vessels

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radio-controlled boats for example

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amazing radio-controlled torpedos this

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is before World War one right so Tesla

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takes his plans for the radio-control

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torpedo to the naval war board because

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they're the ones buying inventions Tesla

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buck I mean he was a millionaire and

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then lost it all but but that's how he

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spent his life angling for a buck just

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like all the rest of us trying to sell

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our stuff so he goes to the naval war

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board and he presents the idea for

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automated soldiers robots automated

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radio guided torpedoes now there was a

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problem with them we wouldn't get to in

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a second but automated ships automated

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vessels we have those today who's

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sitting on the naval war board as an

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deep-six is everything oh now uh the

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problem the problem with Edison's radio

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guided weapon with Tesla's radio guided

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weapons it is very basic I mean do you

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remember the old CB radios yes okay so

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you write some 1-9 breaker 1-9 so you're

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on the CB radios breaker nine nine

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you're on the CB radios and somebody

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somewhere keys a mic and what happens it

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goes blank or

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static static yep right yeah that's the

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problem with the radio control torpedo

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sure you can have a radio-controlled

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torpedo but you've got a German u-boat

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sitting somewhere in the Atlantic and

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that German torpedo all they've got to

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do is find the right frequency of the

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radio-controlled torpedo basically jam

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it on the same frequency and it gets

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lost hmm along comes a composer named

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George Ann tile and along comes a movie

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star named Hedy Lamarr the beautiful

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bombshell Hedy Lamarr and together

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they say boy you know there's a problem

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with radio-controlled devices she was if

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you block the frequency then you're just

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gonna get static so here's what they do

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they invent something called spread

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spectrum technology in other words and

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this is the basis for things like a

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pretty good programs and a crypto emails

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if you have a code at one end on the

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transmission end and a receiver has the

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same code on the other end then you can

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encrypt that transmission and a third

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party trying to break it will never be

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able to interfere with it can't jam it

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so hedy lamarr I'm George and I'll

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invent a protocol where the frequencies

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switch and so the transmitting frequency

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and the receiving frequency are sharing

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that protocol for how the frequency will

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switch that's called spread spectrum

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technology and just let me show you what

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device uses that today you're the phone

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yeah yeah spread spectrum technology

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invented by the movie star Hedy Lamarr

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she was like a genius and in her own

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right absolute genius and and but now

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let's go back to the 1930s and 1940s

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she's an absolute genius

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she's a beautiful movie star and so

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nobody takes her seriously as an

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inventor big it's a shame

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it's hedy lamarr the movie store yeah

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hedy lamarr

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so that invention even though she

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patented that invention see she and

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George patented that invention never

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Bullitt by the Navy but didn't they use

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it eventually yes yeah and here's what

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happened

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Sylvania Repat ins what Hedy Lamarr

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invented and that invention was never

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used wasn't used in World War two was

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never used until its 1962 and a Soviet

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submarine is sitting off the coast of

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Cuba and an American submarine is also

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sitting off the coast of Cuba and that

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Soviet submarine this is during the

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blockade during the JFK blockade of Cuba

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during the Cuban Missile Crisis that

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Soviet submarine is a guided missile

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submarine and she opens her missile

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ports and she is set to go and the

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American submarine with Hedy Lamarr's

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invention of the spread spectrum

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technology radio-controlled torpedo is

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sitting a short space away waiting to

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fire that missile to subs silent deep

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and only one person prevents the Soviet

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submarine from launching a guided

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missile that is the Soviet weapons

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officer who says to his captain I am NOT

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going to be the person to launch a

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nuclear war that will destroy the planet

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and the Soviet sub never launches her

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missiles the American sub never fires

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her hedy lamarr invented

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radio-controlled torpedo and the Cuban

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Missile Crisis ends that's how close we

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came

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not hours not minutes but seconds and

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while all that's happening and I spoke

362
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to a pilot about this who was there well

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all that's happening a fleet of

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interceptors a squadron of interceptors

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from Edwards Air Force Base in

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California takes off with nuclear tipped

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anti-air to

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missiles in sy anti missiles anti

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missiles answer yes but their air-to-air

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it takes off from Edwards Air Force Base

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flying nuclear weapons over the

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northwestern United States out over the

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Bering Straits to the failsafe points

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right before the Soviet territory begins

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over the Bering Straits and goes into

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this great circle waiting for the Soviet

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bombers to come and that pilot told me

378
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that if those Soviet bombers had come

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even though we had nuclear tipped

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air-to-air missiles some would have

381
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gotten through and San Francisco Seattle

382
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Los Angeles would have been vaporized

383
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and they were waiting for the Soviet sub

384
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sitting off the coast of between Florida

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and Cuba waiting for that sub to fire

386
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its missiles that was how close the

387
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world came to a nuclear holocaust and

388
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one person also told me I'm Dick Morris

389
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told me this who was Bill Clinton's

390
00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:26,730
advisor Dick Morris told me that the one

391
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of the reasons that that never happened

392
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was that Nikita Khrushchev had lied to

393
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the Supreme Soviet he told his own

394
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Supreme Soviet that the Russians that

395
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the Soviet Union had intercontinental

396
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ballistic missiles they didn't they only

397
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had intermediate-range ballistic

398
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missiles and that's why Khrushchev

399
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blinked she amazing huh back to Tesla

400
00:19:59,030 --> 00:19:57,330
now he's was he hunk was it Hungarian he

401
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was Serbian Serbian okay

402
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:02,130
so he moved here at a young age no money

403
00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:04,650
in his pocket really penniless but he

404
00:20:10,430 --> 00:20:06,660
also came here with a letter from

405
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someone it was sir it was a letter of

406
00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:13,970
introduction from his professor yeah

407
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:16,470
introducing him to Thomas Edison and

408
00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:19,050
asking Thomas Edison to take this young

409
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man on as an apprentice

410
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because he was a genius and could help

411
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:26,009
Edison and anything you wanted to do and

412
00:20:32,649 --> 00:20:30,539
so Edit I mean so Tesla had a task when

413
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he first got there which he completed

414
00:20:38,869 --> 00:20:37,049
and actually if I remember right he had

415
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something he was doing and then he was

416
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:40,859
supposed to get a payment for it and he

417
00:20:43,639 --> 00:20:42,090
went to Edison for the payment and

418
00:20:45,859 --> 00:20:43,649
Edison kind of laughed it off sure

419
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:45,869
because the power generators at the

420
00:20:51,589 --> 00:20:48,210
Pearl Street at the Pearl Street plant

421
00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:51,599
were failing and so Edison said to Tesla

422
00:21:00,200 --> 00:20:55,080
if you can fix these generators over the

423
00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:00,210
weekend I will sign a cheque give you a

424
00:21:07,549 --> 00:21:04,289
check and you just fill in the zeros and

425
00:21:10,609 --> 00:21:07,559
oh oh mr. Edison Oh maestro maestro

426
00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:10,619
Edison thank you thank you he does the

427
00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:13,080
work he doesn't sleep for 48 hours and

428
00:21:19,249 --> 00:21:15,929
then on Monday morning Edison shows up

429
00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:19,259
and he goes oh mr. Edison I've done it

430
00:21:24,619 --> 00:21:22,200
Oh master Edison I fixed the generators

431
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,629
can I have my check now and Edison says

432
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:27,440
to him you thought that I was serious

433
00:21:35,749 --> 00:21:31,710
poor guy I mean his whole life there's

434
00:21:39,019 --> 00:21:35,759
Marconi you know now there there was a

435
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:39,029
rivalry between the two as well oh my

436
00:21:45,529 --> 00:21:42,210
god the rivalry lasted I mean the

437
00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:45,539
rivalry lasted until Edison died in in

438
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in 1932

439
00:21:55,129 --> 00:21:51,330
one of the biggest explosions between

440
00:21:58,690 --> 00:21:55,139
them came in the 1893 Chicago World's

441
00:22:03,019 --> 00:21:58,700
Fair Chicago the City of Light yes yeah

442
00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:03,029
Edison Edison's General Electric put in

443
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:06,089
a bid for phenomenal amount of money

444
00:22:11,930 --> 00:22:07,830
over a million dollars to light the fair

445
00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:11,940
and the Chicago World's Fair management

446
00:22:18,499 --> 00:22:16,919
team said we can't afford this where's

447
00:22:23,149 --> 00:22:18,509
the money for this hmm

448
00:22:26,299 --> 00:22:23,159
so Edison thinking I'm really smart cuts

449
00:22:30,340 --> 00:22:26,309
the bit in half nobody's gonna be able

450
00:22:34,899 --> 00:22:30,350
to match this Tesla

451
00:22:38,889 --> 00:22:34,909
with Westinghouse comes in $100,000 less

452
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:38,899
he gets the bid yeah and Edison has such

453
00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:40,730
a grudge he doesn't even let him use his

454
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:42,500
lightbulbs right that's true because

455
00:22:46,419 --> 00:22:43,929
here's what happens

456
00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:46,429
Tesla likes the fair with alternating

457
00:22:51,129 --> 00:22:48,350
current yeah he doesn't need Edison's

458
00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:51,139
light bulbs what was the dream he had as

459
00:22:54,909 --> 00:22:53,059
a young boy before he ever came to

460
00:22:57,159 --> 00:22:54,919
America that he wanted to do something

461
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:57,169
with Niagara Falls right he wanted to

462
00:23:00,370 --> 00:22:58,970
build a generator he actually yeah yeah

463
00:23:03,610 --> 00:23:00,380
which he did he did yeah

464
00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:03,620
I mean his dream was to use the power of

465
00:23:09,549 --> 00:23:07,460
Niagara Falls and and and make that turn

466
00:23:12,399 --> 00:23:09,559
a generator and that generator would

467
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:12,409
power the entire Northeast grid and

468
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:15,679
that's exactly what he did he used the

469
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:18,080
power of Niagara Falls he was one of the

470
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:20,570
earliest inventors to develop

471
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:23,330
hydroelectric power is that how long did

472
00:23:27,850 --> 00:23:26,210
that service run for there oh I don't

473
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:27,860
know I mean it's no longer running

474
00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:31,970
previously but in fact we could go off

475
00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:34,340
on a tangent about the 1965 power

476
00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:38,990
blackout but it only ran for about I

477
00:23:47,649 --> 00:23:44,990
want to say maybe 35 40 years hmm still

478
00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:47,659
mmm that's a that's a lot of free power

479
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:49,340
and like the Hoover Dam you know I mean

480
00:23:53,470 --> 00:23:51,049
you look at it that way I mean

481
00:23:56,019 --> 00:23:53,480
the Hoover Dam was such a massive

482
00:23:57,549 --> 00:23:56,029
undertaking Niagara Falls was not but

483
00:23:59,950 --> 00:23:57,559
you would never be able to do something

484
00:24:01,749 --> 00:23:59,960
that in a natural situation today no in

485
00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:01,759
the park or anything no I mean and

486
00:24:05,289 --> 00:24:03,230
that's what's so fun and that's what so

487
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:05,299
and this is where you know you're seeing

488
00:24:10,899 --> 00:24:07,070
well this is where we are now as a

489
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:10,909
country I mean to do that kind of work

490
00:24:17,230 --> 00:24:15,110
now how much environmental impact would

491
00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:17,240
that have how much disturbance would

492
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:19,460
that have so people will scream oh oh

493
00:24:22,779 --> 00:24:21,289
you're killing the fish but on the one

494
00:24:24,369 --> 00:24:22,789
hand you're saying yeah we're killing

495
00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:24,379
the fish but look at all the free power

496
00:24:27,490 --> 00:24:25,940
on the other end people are saying but

497
00:24:29,619 --> 00:24:27,500
how much of the environment are you

498
00:24:32,529 --> 00:24:29,629
going to destroy this is exactly the

499
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:32,539
today this is what's facing us right now

500
00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:34,250
because when you look at some of the

501
00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:35,750
environmental impacts that are coming

502
00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:37,460
out of the administration from the

503
00:24:41,619 --> 00:24:40,190
Energy Department from from the

504
00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:41,629
Environmental Protection Department when

505
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:43,240
you're looking at that

506
00:24:48,510 --> 00:24:45,490
you're seeing the same arguments today

507
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:48,520
that you would have seen a hundred years

508
00:24:55,650 --> 00:24:51,520
ago that is something let's talk about

509
00:24:58,290 --> 00:24:55,660
more of the friction between Tesla and

510
00:25:03,060 --> 00:24:58,300
Edison as time went on now I mentioned

511
00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:03,070
Marconi you know didn't actually without

512
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:05,980
Tesla the radio would have taken a lot

513
00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:08,650
longer to invent right this is another

514
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:12,460
bone of contention yes it was more Coney

515
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:15,370
who first began to develop wireless

516
00:25:21,930 --> 00:25:18,160
transmissions yes that's true

517
00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:21,940
at the same time Tesla was developing

518
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:24,040
wireless transmission of radio is it

519
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:26,530
what is a radio if it's electrons right

520
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,670
I mean an Edison was working on the

521
00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:32,320
transmission of electrons because he

522
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:33,820
improved bells telephone number at

523
00:25:39,090 --> 00:25:37,360
Bell's telephone didn't have a carbon

524
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:39,100
transmitter in it that's what phones

525
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:40,840
have and we're not our phone's not

526
00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:43,630
digital phones but the basic analog

527
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:47,020
phones have this thing if you unscrew

528
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:48,730
the mouthpiece

529
00:25:55,169 --> 00:25:52,720
inside there is a of this some carbon

530
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,179
diaphragm and that is a transmitter and

531
00:25:59,580 --> 00:25:57,520
what that does is it translates the

532
00:26:03,810 --> 00:25:59,590
sound waves to electric waves to

533
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:03,820
electrons grains telephone didn't have

534
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:06,730
that so grain would have to shout into

535
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:08,770
the phone come here Watson I want you

536
00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:12,490
and that was the phone that was at the

537
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:15,340
White House that so impressed the

538
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:18,910
president what Edison did was he

539
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:22,240
realized that a carbon diaphragm would

540
00:26:28,919 --> 00:26:25,150
transmit an electric current and that

541
00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:28,929
improved the telephone hmm Tesla

542
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:31,920
believed that you could do electronic

543
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:34,960
transmission of electrons and he

544
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:37,450
believed in wireless transmission so

545
00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:40,710
both he and Marconi at the same time

546
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:43,390
we're developing wireless transmission

547
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:47,110
of electronics of didd of electro

548
00:27:03,019 --> 00:26:59,049
now we're coming up on World War two and

549
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:03,029
Marconi who is a fascist I mean he was

550
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:07,289
working for Mussolini Marconi asserts

551
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,970
that the United States cannot use radios

552
00:27:16,849 --> 00:27:13,440
because that would infringe upon his

553
00:27:18,499 --> 00:27:16,859
patent and they owed him licensing fees

554
00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:18,509
and he refused to give them any the

555
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:21,409
license to use it the United States

556
00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:25,679
challenges the patent and says that you

557
00:27:30,999 --> 00:27:27,779
don't have the patent the United States

558
00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:31,009
Supreme Court now what's funny is

559
00:27:36,919 --> 00:27:33,960
Marconi is basically on the side of

560
00:27:38,899 --> 00:27:36,929
Edison because it's Edison who's

561
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:38,909
Licensing those patents because remember

562
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:43,440
right about it was the Marconi radio

563
00:27:52,249 --> 00:27:48,559
system that was used with Edison and

564
00:27:58,399 --> 00:27:52,259
with a person who was working for

565
00:28:01,310 --> 00:27:58,409
Marconi Roberts Sarnoff to wire the

566
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,320
early motion picture studios oh and the

567
00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:04,320
financier behind all of that

568
00:28:13,989 --> 00:28:08,820
was wait for it Papa Joe Kennedy Joseph

569
00:28:16,099 --> 00:28:13,999
Kennedy Wow and the early that's why RKO

570
00:28:18,919 --> 00:28:16,109
became the first one of the first

571
00:28:21,379 --> 00:28:18,929
studios to become wired for sound that's

572
00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:21,389
how talkies began and that was all

573
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,350
through Morricone

574
00:28:27,259 --> 00:28:25,200
so the United States challenges

575
00:28:29,749 --> 00:28:27,269
Marconi's patents the Supreme Court

576
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:29,759
pulls the patent away from Marconi the

577
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:31,980
United States get to use gets to use

578
00:28:37,879 --> 00:28:34,409
radios in World War two without paying a

579
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:37,889
license fee and so the common myth is

580
00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:40,769
that Tesla defeated Marconi for the

581
00:28:46,129 --> 00:28:43,559
patent not true Tesla was not a part of

582
00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:46,139
that case you know for some reason I was

583
00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:47,669
thinking radios were a lot earlier than

584
00:28:53,779 --> 00:28:51,960
World War two hmm okay they were but

585
00:28:55,729 --> 00:28:53,789
everybody was paying Marconi licensing

586
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:55,739
fees I see what you're saying yeah I got

587
00:29:05,119 --> 00:28:56,340
it I got it

588
00:29:07,339 --> 00:29:05,129
so getting back to Edison he he let's I

589
00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:07,349
think Tesla basically walks away right

590
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,160
yes

591
00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:10,620
one point he walks away did he walk away

592
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,520
with a plan or did he just I know he met

593
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:16,080
up with Westinghouse how did all that

594
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:18,630
happen he goes to George Westinghouse

595
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:22,080
and he says to George Westinghouse if

596
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:26,730
you invest in my alternating current not

597
00:29:33,650 --> 00:29:30,480
only will we defeat General Electric but

598
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:33,660
we will make more money because it's

599
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:37,970
cheaper to build cheaper to install and

600
00:29:46,550 --> 00:29:43,220
here's the key you could not install

601
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:46,560
direct current across the North American

602
00:29:51,220 --> 00:29:49,170
continent because you couldn't put that

603
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:51,230
many relay stations across the country

604
00:29:59,030 --> 00:29:56,180
what Tesla argued to Westinghouse was

605
00:30:01,760 --> 00:29:59,040
that the power behind alternating

606
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:01,770
current is so great that you're not

607
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:03,930
going to need relay stations strung

608
00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:05,250
right across the North American

609
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:07,860
continent we can distribute that power

610
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:11,010
by cable now Edison said and here's

611
00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:14,370
another great story Anacin said no no no

612
00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:16,670
that's not going to work because

613
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:20,670
alternating current the voltage is so

614
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:25,500
high that somebody touches a you put it

615
00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:28,350
into a house somebody goes to plug

616
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:30,180
something in there's a short-circuit

617
00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:32,100
you're gonna have thousands of volts

618
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:33,630
going through a human body the person

619
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:37,220
will be electrocuted so what is Tesla do

620
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:41,850
he invents the transformer two-step

621
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:46,170
current down so you go through or I live

622
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:49,710
right now in eastern Pennsylvania you

623
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:52,350
see these major power lines going across

624
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,110
the Delaware River up and down up north

625
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,840
and south across the state and and you

626
00:31:01,520 --> 00:30:59,760
can't even go near these power lines

627
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:01,530
you can't build near them you can't put

628
00:31:06,290 --> 00:31:03,570
a house near them because the power is

629
00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:06,300
so intense and the static electricity is

630
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:10,800
is dangerous yeah but if you look on the

631
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:13,890
power poles as the power goes into and

632
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:16,140
and is distributed to the housing

633
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:16,860
developments

634
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:19,350
you see these transformers on the poles

635
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,810
those transformers step the power

636
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:24,720
were down to 120 volts that's what Tesla

637
00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:28,730
invented in other words Tesla made

638
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:31,950
alternating currents safe for household

639
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:35,220
use Edison would have none of that what

640
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:38,450
Edison said is I'm gonna prove that

641
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:42,870
alternating current is deadly what is

642
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:46,230
that so here's what he does he goes to

643
00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:48,750
New York State and he says the New York

644
00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:50,190
State who do you have on death row that

645
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,440
you're gonna knock off at New York's

646
00:31:57,290 --> 00:31:54,480
result is this prisoners murderer

647
00:32:00,080 --> 00:31:57,300
Richard calories of vicious men Tesla

648
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:00,090
said Edison says I'm gonna find a way to

649
00:32:07,910 --> 00:32:04,290
execute this man for free so he hires an

650
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:07,920
engineer to build a chair and he

651
00:32:13,910 --> 00:32:10,410
electrifies the chair with with with

652
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:13,920
unsnapped down alternating current but

653
00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:16,950
first he has to test it so he's testing

654
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:18,360
it he's killing dogs

655
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:21,510
he's killing cats he's killing elephants

656
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:23,670
he's anything that comes in it's

657
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:25,770
terrible that's what he's doing

658
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:28,770
then they put Kammler in the chair now

659
00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:30,510
this is a scene from The Green Mile

660
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:34,140
right then they put him in the chair put

661
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:37,710
the helmet strap men they throw the

662
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:40,860
power switches and what happens Kammler

663
00:32:47,660 --> 00:32:44,430
begins to smoke begins to melt his eyes

664
00:32:49,910 --> 00:32:47,670
start to run but he doesn't die how'd

665
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:49,920
you do it like three times yes they do

666
00:32:55,790 --> 00:32:53,760
it again then they do it again only as a

667
00:32:58,220 --> 00:32:55,800
heart attack and dies so what are the

668
00:33:00,530 --> 00:32:58,230
New York papers say incredible and

669
00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:00,540
George Westinghouse was furious he's

670
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:02,790
saying you can do this he's complaining

671
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:05,790
to the governor this is inhumane this is

672
00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:10,050
like barbaric torture mm-hmm the New

673
00:33:16,550 --> 00:33:13,580
York papers say that Richard Kammler was

674
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Westinghouse Oh

675
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:19,530
oh my god and that was the first example

676
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:23,310
of unbranded of alternating currents oh

677
00:33:29,150 --> 00:33:27,210
my god Wow and so as he worked with

678
00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:29,160
Westinghouse I remember there was a

679
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:32,340
contract that Tesla had with

680
00:33:36,019 --> 00:33:33,870
Westinghouse and had to do with

681
00:33:37,879 --> 00:33:36,029
horsepower so many dollars

682
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:37,889
for every horsepower writer that he know

683
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:40,049
which would have added would have been

684
00:33:45,259 --> 00:33:42,059
probably a trillion dollars today but

685
00:33:48,499 --> 00:33:45,269
you know millions of dollars hmm

686
00:33:51,859 --> 00:33:48,509
now Westinghouse went through some type

687
00:33:54,259 --> 00:33:51,869
of bad financial time and Tesla forgave

688
00:33:56,959 --> 00:33:54,269
that contract is that right the Great

689
00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:56,969
Depression the depression of course the

690
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:01,799
crash of the stock market Tesla was on

691
00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:04,399
the verge of being a multi billionaire

692
00:34:10,789 --> 00:34:08,099
but he was a very I mean he was a bitter

693
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:10,799
man I can tell you stories about Tesla

694
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:12,419
that but basically of your eyes will

695
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:15,089
cross he was a bitter man but on the

696
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:17,609
other hand he was forgiving to the

697
00:34:25,069 --> 00:34:21,119
people who he believed supported him so

698
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:25,079
he forgave that fee that he was owed

699
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:29,490
from that horsepower fee that that he

700
00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:30,990
was owed from west guess and in the end

701
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,440
the same thing with JP Morgan Tesla goes

702
00:34:39,019 --> 00:34:36,240
to JP Morgan and because I've got the

703
00:34:41,659 --> 00:34:39,029
greatest invention I can transmit power

704
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:41,669
wirelessly that's happening right now

705
00:34:46,099 --> 00:34:43,980
you can charge your iPhones now with the

706
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:46,109
certain iPhones will charge wirelessly

707
00:34:49,819 --> 00:34:48,450
I used to say as a joke when I was a kid

708
00:34:52,309 --> 00:34:49,829
I was gonna invent the wireless

709
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:52,319
extension cord as a joke but I had

710
00:34:56,569 --> 00:34:54,270
before a we've even heard of Tesla

711
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:56,579
exactly if that was Tesla's plan

712
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:58,410
Wireless distribution of electricity

713
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:02,160
which we are going to have but he was he

714
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:04,200
was envisioning it coming from the sky

715
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:05,700
well sure

716
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:08,700
coming from these giant antennas beaming

717
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:12,829
power to municipal distribution grids

718
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:17,599
free right and JP Morgan says to Tesla

719
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:20,130
why would I invest in something that I

720
00:35:27,789 --> 00:35:23,760
can't charge for yeah he was pretty

721
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:27,799
pretty shrewd so he goes to Colorado

722
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,140
builds this this tower right and El

723
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:33,359
Dorado Springs at one point does any say

724
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:35,460
that he's him is it there that he thinks

725
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:39,170
he hears an alien signal right yeah

726
00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:42,210
Tesla's view is that there are all these

727
00:35:48,829 --> 00:35:45,660
hidden frequencies and all we had to do

728
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:48,839
was find the right frequency and you'd

729
00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:49,700
hear voice

730
00:35:58,510 --> 00:35:54,380
says not only of aliens but voices of

731
00:36:01,840 --> 00:35:58,520
the dead really that was his theory that

732
00:36:05,980 --> 00:36:01,850
now here's the plausibility of that

733
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:05,990
theory you and I are talking and our

734
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:08,810
voices the the radio waves the sound

735
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:12,140
waves from our conversation are going

736
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,770
out into space they're in a certain

737
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:18,800
frequency so let's say there's an alien

738
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:24,320
race out beyond Pluto if they had the

739
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:27,920
right kind of equipment in theory Tesla

740
00:36:34,270 --> 00:36:31,310
argued they'd be able to pick up our the

741
00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:34,280
frequency of our conversation so our

742
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:37,430
voices would never die then Tesla said

743
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:41,210
take that to the next stage what if it's

744
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:43,540
a hundred and fifty years in the future

745
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:47,030
but our conversations just like the

746
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:48,890
Tesla motor car with the mannequin

747
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:50,810
that's now going out into the so out of

748
00:36:56,070 --> 00:36:53,690
the solar system yeah yeah what talk

749
00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:56,080
about yeah we were just like that a

750
00:37:01,660 --> 00:36:59,030
million years from now if that's not

751
00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:01,670
destroyed by radiation or not picked up

752
00:37:06,670 --> 00:37:03,800
by an alien but that's still going to be

753
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:06,680
out there in out beyond the solar system

754
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:10,100
well so will the sound of our voices if

755
00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:13,760
you had the right frequency long after

756
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:18,380
we're gone so Tesla is saying if I could

757
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:21,080
find the right frequency I will hear the

758
00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:25,280
voices of the dead and that was Tesla's

759
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:28,700
plan for the spirit phone isn't that

760
00:37:31,630 --> 00:37:30,260
amazing it's almost like when you're

761
00:37:34,660 --> 00:37:31,640
looking through a telescope you're

762
00:37:37,060 --> 00:37:34,670
looking back in time you know exactly I

763
00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:37,070
was proven correct we look back in time

764
00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:39,500
we can look at at very close to the

765
00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:41,150
beginning of the universe only a better

766
00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:44,630
a billion years yeah I mean and the and

767
00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:47,270
and the gravitational waves we've picked

768
00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:49,700
them up just just two years ago

769
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:51,860
that's what's so fascinating so Tesla

770
00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:54,650
was actually proven correct in that

771
00:38:00,940 --> 00:37:57,590
theory when those waves altered altered

772
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:00,950
space-time from the collapse from the

773
00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:02,090
action not the collapse with the

774
00:38:05,890 --> 00:38:03,140
collision

775
00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:05,900
of two massive black holes 1.3 billion

776
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:08,620
years ago yeah now

777
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:11,810
Edison's view Edison also had a view

778
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:15,710
he said his last invention this is now

779
00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:21,350
it's 1920 America and Europe are our son

780
00:38:26,770 --> 00:38:24,500
by the deaths in World War one remember

781
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:26,780
World War one it's been said a lot and

782
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:29,150
I'll say it again it's trite now was a

783
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:32,330
19th century war fought with 20th

784
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:35,810
century weapons airpower massive

785
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:40,210
artillery poison gas automatic weapons

786
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:42,710
so you can't just have a Napoleon

787
00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:46,010
Bonaparte army marching on Waterloo when

788
00:38:53,110 --> 00:38:49,460
you have automatic weapons firing into

789
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:53,120
the line of soldiers we found that in a

790
00:38:57,550 --> 00:38:55,610
civil war right when when when Richard

791
00:39:01,240 --> 00:38:57,560
Jordan Gatling invented the Gatling gun

792
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:01,250
toward the end of the war we were using

793
00:39:07,810 --> 00:39:03,650
that in the Indian Wars and the American

794
00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:07,820
West so so this was this was a weapon

795
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:09,740
for that time a weapon of mass

796
00:39:19,810 --> 00:39:17,450
destruction so that mass death created

797
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,820
such a level of beer even we have the

798
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:21,920
Lost Generation in Europe Ernest

799
00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:25,660
Hemingway and and and and Picasso and an

800
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:30,740
Edison thought what if Edison's theory

801
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:33,890
was that everything is come is alive it

802
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,930
was it was a guy and it's what we'd call

803
00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:38,240
today it's the theory of Gaia rocks are

804
00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:41,720
alive soil is alive materials are alive

805
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:45,470
the are the wood of the wood in this

806
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:50,030
table is alive this is alive it's all

807
00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:52,700
alive well in a way you know and it's

808
00:39:59,350 --> 00:39:55,160
sort of in a way it is exactly you know

809
00:40:03,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Amol cosa so therefore Edison said if

810
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:03,490
their life units can life units be

811
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:06,890
independent of their physicality in

812
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:09,890
other words our life units can they be

813
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:12,350
transmitted can they be free-floating

814
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:14,570
is there a medium through which they

815
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:16,290
travel

816
00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:18,330
and he said if I could figure out a way

817
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:23,360
to get a signal from those life units I

818
00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:27,420
could talk to the dead and so here's

819
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:30,500
what he did here was his invention

820
00:40:40,180 --> 00:40:33,950
Tesla's theory was radio waves

821
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:40,190
Edison's theory was photons light waves

822
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:44,880
Edison said now at this point he had

823
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:46,980
already invented the motion picture

824
00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:49,050
projector to a large screen

825
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,270
I mean motion picture projection had

826
00:40:58,460 --> 00:40:54,240
already been invented by then he didn't

827
00:41:01,340 --> 00:40:58,470
invent motion pictures but what he

828
00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:01,350
thought he could do is if if he instead

829
00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:05,700
of blowing up through lenses the image

830
00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:08,190
on film he invented the sprocket camera

831
00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:10,230
though but if he could blow up on a

832
00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:13,350
large screen then you could have an

833
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:15,990
audience see motion pictures as opposed

834
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,430
to the Nickelodeon where you had to look

835
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:20,640
inside doing on a large screen you could

836
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:22,200
have multiple people seeing the same in

837
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:26,130
a theater what if I made the light beam

838
00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:31,140
the photon beam pencil-thin okay now

839
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,480
it's a pencil-thin photon beam where am

840
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:35,520
i focusing that beam well I'm gonna

841
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:37,530
focus it on a light meter so when the

842
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:40,680
beam hits the meter the meter is being

843
00:41:45,350 --> 00:41:42,660
registered with that a light beam is

844
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:45,360
hitting it if something gets in the way

845
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:47,940
of that beam the meter is going to

846
00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:51,300
fluctuate if that meter if that cell

847
00:41:58,070 --> 00:41:54,300
that photoelectric cell that's what it

848
00:42:01,160 --> 00:41:58,080
is is is wired to a meter and that dial

849
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:01,170
on the meter flips I'll know if

850
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:03,150
something is interrupting the beam

851
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:05,220
before it hits the photoelectric cell

852
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:07,890
mm-hmm that'll tell me even though

853
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:09,990
there's I can't see anything that

854
00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:12,170
something is crossing that beam and that

855
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:15,780
was the spirit phone Wow which ended up

856
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:18,390
being something to open doors and all

857
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:21,210
kinds of things right yes I talk about

858
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:23,370
the strange ways that we invent things

859
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:26,940
for one purpose and turn out being for

860
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,770
another purpose yeah

861
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:30,960
really something I was gonna and I will

862
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:34,170
ask you now I wonder if Tesla would have

863
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,210
ever invade envisioned first of all a

864
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:38,640
car would be named after him by Elon

865
00:42:43,850 --> 00:42:41,250
Musk but actually would be floating you

866
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:43,860
know throughout the galaxy possibly you

867
00:42:48,890 --> 00:42:47,040
know forever and ever I mean whatever I

868
00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:48,900
have course cars that already been

869
00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:51,360
invented by the time Tesla was inventing

870
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:54,980
I mean cars were combustion engines were

871
00:43:01,460 --> 00:42:57,990
combustion in fact combustion engines

872
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:01,470
were being used to power lighter than

873
00:43:08,570 --> 00:43:05,460
air craft in the 1890s right the great

874
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:08,580
Texas airship mystery of 1897 in Aurora

875
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,470
Texas that was the lighter-than-air

876
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:12,960
craft powered by a combustion engine

877
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:16,350
that hit the paddle wheels the windmills

878
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,740
of a well pump exploded the gasoline

879
00:43:25,550 --> 00:43:22,800
engine and wasn't UFO was UFO to them

880
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,560
yeah but it wasn't a UFO to us now that

881
00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:27,540
was that Kant did that actually get

882
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:30,180
solved and you're you're showing UFO

883
00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:31,830
Hunters yeah we solved that because what

884
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,320
happened was well there's the unknown

885
00:43:39,859 --> 00:43:37,200
grave right didn't ya the unknown grave

886
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:39,869
but b-but but the graveyard manager

887
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,510
wouldn't let us dig it up so we took so

888
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:44,520
we took ground-penetrating radar and ran

889
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:46,140
it over the grave and sure enough there

890
00:43:51,830 --> 00:43:50,040
were bones really yeah so that why did

891
00:43:53,180 --> 00:43:51,840
they think it was just a lien to them

892
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:53,190
they didn't understand it they didn't

893
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:54,930
know what it was because what happened

894
00:43:59,870 --> 00:43:57,660
was these airships these were sportsmen

895
00:44:02,660 --> 00:43:59,880
in the American Southwest here right

896
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,670
here and what they were doing is they

897
00:44:06,830 --> 00:44:04,560
would decorate the first one they would

898
00:44:09,620 --> 00:44:06,840
clad their airships with metal so they

899
00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:09,630
were metallically clad airships and they

900
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,580
were in the shapes of birds so people

901
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:14,160
would see these metallic birds flying

902
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,770
through the air with a combustion engine

903
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:18,000
they didn't know what a combustion

904
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:21,210
engine was powered like that and in fact

905
00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:24,330
in the 1890s they were trying to get

906
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:27,660
these airships over to Cuba to fight

907
00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:30,450
Spain in the spanish-american war now

908
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:32,670
what did they use to what do they use in

909
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,490
the I want to say balloon part of the

910
00:44:39,859 --> 00:44:38,400
dirigible part of it for gas the lighter

911
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:39,869
than air gas what did they actually use

912
00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:42,170
it wasn't hydrogen that's

913
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:44,300
what I was gonna ask which is highly

914
00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:45,950
explosive yes

915
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,020
yeah very deadly and they use that in

916
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:49,520
the Civil War - that's right and that's

917
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:51,110
why the balloon blew up that's why the

918
00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:52,490
whole thing blew up on hit you know when

919
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:54,830
I when I hit the power when it hit the

920
00:45:01,390 --> 00:44:58,610
mill the paddles ruptured the hydrogen

921
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:01,400
created a spark the thing ignites the

922
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:04,130
engine blows up aluminum goes all over

923
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:07,550
the place into the well which by the way

924
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:10,310
was being closed up because judge

925
00:45:17,770 --> 00:45:15,110
Proctor had such bad arthritis I could

926
00:45:19,210 --> 00:45:17,780
go one thing after another now you just

927
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,220
said the word aluminum now wasn't

928
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:22,400
aluminum like a real precious metal at

929
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:25,190
that time yes and when we found the

930
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:27,830
aluminum fragments in the well that

931
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:30,410
people said didn't exist that was the

932
00:45:34,510 --> 00:45:32,450
great part about your funders the great

933
00:45:37,450 --> 00:45:34,520
part about that show what I love the

934
00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:37,460
most about that show was debunking the

935
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:43,160
debunkers and so when we when Pat us

936
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:45,530
Kurt and boy we put him into the

937
00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:48,710
greatest dive in costume dropped him in

938
00:45:53,740 --> 00:45:50,990
the well he comes up with these aluminum

939
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:53,750
pieces we took him to one of the Texas

940
00:45:58,660 --> 00:45:56,690
University mid metallurgy labs and test

941
00:46:00,310 --> 00:45:58,670
and I said yeah it's aluminum alright

942
00:46:02,590 --> 00:46:00,320
but Wow

943
00:46:05,050 --> 00:46:02,600
this is aluminum from the early 20th

944
00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:05,060
century and that was a big deal of it

945
00:46:08,110 --> 00:46:06,260
yeah because they changed the alloy

946
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:08,120
after World War two

947
00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:11,270
yeah yeah now we only have about five or

948
00:46:17,890 --> 00:46:16,220
five or maybe seven minutes left so what

949
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:17,900
can you tell us since you did this

950
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,330
research um as you can tell I'm more

951
00:46:26,830 --> 00:46:22,880
interested in Tesla than I am and on but

952
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:26,840
what can you tell us about Tesla the man

953
00:46:35,830 --> 00:46:31,220
I know he never married he actually I

954
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:35,840
think women he was repulsed by women in

955
00:46:41,410 --> 00:46:37,310
their perfume and things like that he

956
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:41,420
was very okay he he well he would he had

957
00:46:47,350 --> 00:46:44,480
he was very sensitive to all kinds of

958
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:47,360
sensory input yeah I mean he didn't like

959
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:49,130
loud noises mmm

960
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,370
he didn't like intense fragrances aromas

961
00:46:56,650 --> 00:46:54,800
he didn't like intense taste but here's

962
00:46:58,089 --> 00:46:56,660
the funny story about him

963
00:46:59,230 --> 00:46:58,099
toward the end of his life he was that

964
00:47:01,920 --> 00:46:59,240
he was living in The New Yorker Hotel

965
00:47:06,359 --> 00:47:01,930
right that's sort of single remote l ah

966
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:06,369
penniless man yeah and so the the

967
00:47:10,990 --> 00:47:09,440
serbo-croatian boxing championship is

968
00:47:13,150 --> 00:47:11,000
paying a visit he's gonna have the big

969
00:47:17,470 --> 00:47:13,160
heavyweight fighter in New York Madison

970
00:47:20,589 --> 00:47:17,480
Square Garden and so they say to Tesla

971
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:20,599
oh you have to meet him master Tesla you

972
00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:23,090
you have to meet him maestro you have to

973
00:47:28,450 --> 00:47:25,430
give him your blessing for this fight so

974
00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:28,460
they meet Tesla they got and they go to

975
00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:31,340
a restaurant and and and this is a

976
00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:33,560
fighter he's strapping man he's in

977
00:47:38,410 --> 00:47:36,260
training so he's and and and he's eating

978
00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:38,420
light and Tesla says okay how can you

979
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:40,940
fight in the championship without wine

980
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:43,369
and steak and they say oh no no no no

981
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:46,609
master Tesla he can't do that staple

982
00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:49,910
will wear him down he'll be too sluggish

983
00:47:58,030 --> 00:47:53,480
to fight Tesla goes nonsense the biggest

984
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:58,040
steak give it to him it's the steak he's

985
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:06,430
flattened oh my god oh that's something

986
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:10,609
and I know that he he befriended birds

987
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:13,849
you know I mean he would he would feed

988
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:16,490
the birds but he did he have friends did

989
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:18,530
he have any friends you know but here's

990
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,170
a boarder he was a loner and he would

991
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:23,119
stack up all of his files of his

992
00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:25,369
sketches and inventions and his plans

993
00:48:31,870 --> 00:48:30,560
for patents and before the war he wrote

994
00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:31,880
to the United States government and said

995
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:35,300
I have a plan for an antigravity machine

996
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:38,960
I can develop anti-gravity and the

997
00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:41,390
United States said oh no you're just a

998
00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:43,790
wacky old man you're just crazy we're

999
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:45,950
not gonna spend money on this so what

1000
00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:49,250
did he do he wrote to Stalin oh my

1001
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:51,830
goodness and he also had the death ray

1002
00:48:56,650 --> 00:48:53,720
or something well that was the particle

1003
00:48:58,450 --> 00:48:56,660
beam in fact that was well before that

1004
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,460
was all the way back in the 1930s in

1005
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:00,880
fact in fact

1006
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:05,839
Tesla became the the the the poster boy

1007
00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:07,800
for the evil genius

1008
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:10,859
and if you go back and confined on

1009
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:13,410
YouTube or some of the old Flash Gordon

1010
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:17,730
serials the death ray that because Tesla

1011
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:19,890
said if he had a very concentrated but

1012
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:22,440
he invented particle beam-weapons and he

1013
00:49:27,859 --> 00:49:25,920
said that I can have a death ray that's

1014
00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:27,869
so powerful that it'll penetrate

1015
00:49:33,310 --> 00:49:30,660
anything and destroy anything well it

1016
00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:33,320
was never invented back in the 30s but

1017
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:36,630
it did see the light of day back in the

1018
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:42,990
1930s in one form Flash Gordon in the

1019
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:45,990
Flash Gordon serials in the Flash Gordon

1020
00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:49,470
serials Ming the Merciless emperor of

1021
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:53,190
the planet focused his death ray

1022
00:50:00,920 --> 00:49:57,599
on planet Earth and Flash Gordon had to

1023
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:00,930
fly to and destroy the Death Ray

1024
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,839
and so Tesla's death ray did see the

1025
00:50:10,099 --> 00:50:06,480
light of day in motion pictures isn't

1026
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:10,109
that funny now one last thing I want to

1027
00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:12,570
talk about in going back to the tower

1028
00:50:19,460 --> 00:50:16,020
and Colorado that idea he was right to

1029
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:19,470
the day he died he as far as I know he

1030
00:50:28,930 --> 00:50:22,230
truly thought that there was could be a

1031
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:28,940
source of wireless power free power what

1032
00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:32,250
what how close did he get to that very

1033
00:50:37,099 --> 00:50:35,220
close he came so close that he couldn't

1034
00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:37,109
get the financing to facilitate it

1035
00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:40,260
because what because JP Morgan said I'm

1036
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:41,790
not going to pay for it but yes he

1037
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:43,320
believed that and in fact he had two

1038
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,730
forms of wireless power and in fact this

1039
00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:50,160
even gets better because the forms of

1040
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:51,960
wireless is one of those forms of

1041
00:50:59,660 --> 00:50:55,410
wireless power is now being used in

1042
00:51:02,990 --> 00:50:59,670
Australia by guess home Elon Musk and

1043
00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:03,000
Tesla in Australia in Australia here was

1044
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:06,599
his theory if every house could have

1045
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:10,410
powerful solar converters to take

1046
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:15,150
sunlight convert the sunlight into steam

1047
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:18,839
the steam would be or would generate

1048
00:51:22,799 --> 00:51:21,130
hydroelectric power

1049
00:51:27,499 --> 00:51:22,809
each house would have its own power

1050
00:51:30,779 --> 00:51:27,509
station that was his theory and and

1051
00:51:32,999 --> 00:51:30,789
that's exactly what Ellen Musk is doing

1052
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,009
with his solar panels now it's not

1053
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:34,960
generating steam it's going direct from

1054
00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:36,670
solar power to storage batteries to

1055
00:51:43,049 --> 00:51:40,180
energy its bypassing the steam but

1056
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:43,059
what's so funny is that was the basis of

1057
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:47,130
Tesla's invention isn't that something

1058
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:52,720
and the part about getting I know

1059
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:54,460
there's something like hi and I looked

1060
00:51:58,499 --> 00:51:56,529
this up one time because sometimes that

1061
00:52:00,420 --> 00:51:58,509
can be kind of a geek on things but I

1062
00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:00,430
forget how many lightning strikes there

1063
00:52:05,309 --> 00:52:03,460
are per day in the world but it's in the

1064
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:05,319
millions it's like two million or

1065
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:09,910
something do you think and any time in

1066
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:11,529
the future would ever be able to harness

1067
00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:13,089
that power in any type of way I mean

1068
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:15,460
that's out-of-the-box thinking but

1069
00:52:20,099 --> 00:52:17,740
that's what he was basically thinking

1070
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:20,109
yeah just intermittent and hard to you

1071
00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:21,490
know hard to charge where it's gonna

1072
00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:26,920
happen it is but let's just say that you

1073
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:28,839
had the ability to generate the kind of

1074
00:52:34,349 --> 00:52:31,390
electric charge right that the pole

1075
00:52:36,509 --> 00:52:34,359
differential that would send ground

1076
00:52:39,269 --> 00:52:36,519
lightning up and cloud lightning down if

1077
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:39,279
you could do that but focus that in one

1078
00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:39,970
spot

1079
00:52:45,029 --> 00:52:42,700
store that power and massive storage

1080
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:45,039
batteries that will not degrade the

1081
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:48,609
power store it and then transmit that

1082
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:50,650
power you would have free power from the

1083
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:54,460
heavens yeah yeah well Bill as always

1084
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:55,930
it's always a pleasure talking to you

1085
00:53:00,720 --> 00:52:57,430
and it's so great to meet you finally

1086
00:53:03,690 --> 00:53:00,730
yeah yes yes I get your emails all the

1087
00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:03,700
time it's wonderful I hear your show so

1088
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,670
finally we get to do this in person yes

1089
00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:08,559
and do you have a website or anything

1090
00:53:13,259 --> 00:53:11,380
folks can go to Shadowland press comm

1091
00:53:15,329 --> 00:53:13,269
which is my website look at all of our

1092
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:15,339
books buy all of our books they're all

1093
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:18,130
available and but I wanted to leave with

1094
00:53:22,829 --> 00:53:19,180
this because I know that you're gonna be

1095
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:22,839
talking to Bryce table yes right right

1096
00:53:27,749 --> 00:53:26,170
in a book that came out Tuesday called

1097
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:27,759
UFOs in the White House

1098
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:31,450
I'll just tease this it is the story of

1099
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:34,450
why Mark David Chapman

1100
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:37,900
killed John Lennon really yes

1101
00:53:44,849 --> 00:53:41,470
that's nothing to do with UFOs even

1102
00:53:48,089 --> 00:53:44,859
though even though part of the myth was

1103
00:53:50,579 --> 00:53:48,099
that because John Lennon had

1104
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:50,589
communicated with aliens and they gave

1105
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:53,440
him the alien egg to translate their

1106
00:53:58,410 --> 00:53:55,900
language which really was John Dee from

1107
00:54:01,620 --> 00:53:58,420
Elizabethan England to translate their

1108
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:01,630
language that's why he was killed

1109
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:04,270
it was something far more and more

1110
00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:08,950
mundane but far creepier Wow amazing all

1111
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:10,540
right bill thanks again it was my

1112
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,200
pleasure

1113
00:54:17,010 --> 00:54:13,839
all right that's it for the show thanks

1114
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:17,020
so much for listening and we'll be back

1115
00:54:20,609 --> 00:54:20,230
next week with two guests on at the same

1116
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:20,619
time

1117
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:24,400
Derrick Gilbert and Josh Peck they've

1118
00:54:29,250 --> 00:54:27,160
written a couple books one is the most

1119
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:29,260
recent one is called the earth or earth

1120
00:54:36,180 --> 00:54:33,609
stands still old gods behind ETS and

1121
00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:36,190
UFOs it's going to be a great show I

1122
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:38,500
just have a gut feeling about that so

1123
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,750
we'll be back at the regular time and if

1124
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:42,720
you support the show thanks so much

1125
00:54:48,750 --> 00:54:44,890
remember anyone can do that just go to

1126
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:48,760
podcast UFO calm and that's it for this

1127
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:50,500
week thank you for listening and